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Post by euforia on Jan 11, 2007 9:26:59 GMT -8
Looking over the DN1 forums I find that many of the posts are hostile in nature. There's many people who want to help others, but there are many who want to fight and argue. I wonder why this is? If I guessed it would probably be the frustration of the game becoming stagnant with very little dev input on what they plan on doing. One thing's for sure though. It is entertaining to read at times. Anyone else have any guesses?
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Post by Admin on Jan 11, 2007 10:00:26 GMT -8
The same idiots have been yelling at each other for a very long time and the forum mods do nothing about it because they have characters in-game and play favorites. Syntax is getting ignored completely lately for example. People post giant flame wars and nobody does anything. Oh.. and a certain mod by the name of Serenity who has a character in-game and has used the Serenty Account for nefarious purposes in flame wars. I've posted about this problem many many times.. only to be flamed or have my post disappear ... and I've sent PMs.
Numerous people should have been banned a LONG time ago and they aren't.
DN1 forum mods suck. No if's and's or But's. They play favorites and let certain people get away with murder. Promote one group of players while others bust their asses (Me for example) and get zero recognition from any of the mods and Devs. And the Devs only listen to thier select little champaigne group and Mods appearantly ...
I've never been so disrespected as I have been at DN1. Even when people blatantly copy my work and my innovations they get mentions and pats on the head... links in the news sections.. etc, etc, etc.
The deal was that our Forum mods were NOT supposed to be playing the game. Guess we were lied to again. /shrug I'm real close to giving up entirely on the forums.
Doesn't matter how many times I point out what's wrong. Or what's right. Or develop a new way of doing things. Or write tutorials. Or promote the game like nobody else does. (16,000 MxO movie views....), the same asshats get coddled and NOT banned. Bah.
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Post by Admin on Jan 11, 2007 10:02:03 GMT -8
And unlike there.. this is MY forum. I can say whatever I want and they can't stop me. hehe.
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Post by euforia on Jan 11, 2007 17:04:36 GMT -8
lol. No I don't believe they can, sky.
Yeah that's what I've been reading for the past X many months (add any number up to 12 for X).
There was one thing that did piss me off though, but it isn't exactly DN1 related (that I know of). If you look at the LE section of the board you'll find something. The people in attendance are pretty much the same. For the longest time I wanted to figure out why that is, until i started hearing things about LESIG leaking info about events to their friends / factions. But even before I learned that, I talked with LESIG members (BloodworkV, Seraneth, VIBB, ect..) and tried to speak with them in full character but would not get any information on anything. Even now it's hard to get time to speak with them about anything.
This is also a reason why I left.
The way I see it, the people who want global events and voice this want to try and include many people to make things interesting again for everyone, while the other people who shoot it down and claim lag the factor don't want their tea parties coming to a screeching halt.
Lesig was a good idea (seemingly) at the beginning, and worked well at the beginning, is now flawed and needs overhauled or stopped completely.
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Post by Admin on Jan 11, 2007 23:17:31 GMT -8
Lesig is completely out of hand and they all need to be booted from Lesig. When I told Catzi that my faction or I are never invited or informed of events she was surprised. Lesig plays favorites and yeah.. lots of corruption. I call them on it and I'm blacklisted. I'm not stupid. I know what's up. hehe. The whole thing is Fubared because SOE/Devs never enforced anything or did a bit of 'spying' of thier own. I think Rarebit is doing a great job but there are people around him (In Lesig) that are scumbags who care only about themselves and not the game. That's why it's always the same people at the events. You will also notice that if you count the posts by server Recursion has the overwhelming number of posts followed by vector and Syntax getting about 2/3 the number of recursion. Last time I crunched the numbers it was anyway. I asked Rarebit if there was a concious choice to be biased towards Recursion in live events and the curt answer I got was "No." That was it. The sum total of the answers I've recieved about the issues in this thread. I've always said the Mods are too easy on certain people. Then again they lied about not having characters in MxO so why am I surprised? I guess I just expect better out of people. Until I see different ... the whole lot of them are suspect. Mods and Lesig. Even though they are both supposed to be 'secret' and 'unbiased'. Heh.
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Post by euforia on Jan 12, 2007 6:19:21 GMT -8
Yeah, SOE should ahve made them agree to a strict agreement with specific outlines. Monolith should have used their staff or hired 3rd party neutral staff to take the work of forum mods. (imagine how many posts would be deleted / moved from day one? he he he.)
Or they should kick LESIG, get a few devs to help Rarebit with events and then all of a sudden events can become just a little bigger than they are now.
Oh and I just thought of another hilarious comment. Before I dropped my 2 info on availability with events and so fourth on the DN! forums. The grand responce I got was, "Talk to you LO." by other forum members that are supposedly "in the know". "Peachy" was the answer i thought at that moment.
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Post by 2fist on Jan 12, 2007 7:39:59 GMT -8
I've always had my doubts about the viability of LESIG. Giving a player that kind of power without them abusing it requires them to have a sense of honor that is, sadly, becoming increasingly rare these days.
I personally gave up interacting with LESIG, the responses I got out of them were terse. And that's if I got any response at all. I found the best way to find out about live events was to be logged in between 7:30 to 8:30 EST and hop from district to district looking for players above level 50 with /who.
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Post by Admin on Jan 12, 2007 14:25:08 GMT -8
That ain't right. I suggested that LE be announced before-hand PUBLICLY but I was ignored and/or told that would cause horrendous lag. Like I'm some n00b or something. Like I wasn't there when the monster crowds showed up for a Niobe meeting or a Morpheus speech.... Lesig is a joke now. A 'Players club". I wonder if they wear the shiny red jackets with the Players club logo on the breast of the coat? As for the whole Liason Officer bit... the last one that talked to me was Seraneth. Then Seraneth dissappeared. Now we have somebody called Concent or something. Whatever... Never logs in. Doesn't seek out the Zion fleets that actually have a history. Kinda strange that the person voted to be the one that people think of when the word "Zion" is mentioned (me. hehe) is never contacted by the orgs Liason Officer. It's not like I hide. It's not like I never say anything. If Gamisb.. from EPN.. hadn't told me the name I wouldn't even know we HAVE a liason officer anymore.
We shouldn't have to run search patterns at specific times to find out at random if anything is going on. That's lame. It's a Lame lame lame lame lame Lama. Hopping around on one leg.
*edit: And yeah.. the forum mod problem is something that goes back to the Monolith days.
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Post by Admin on Jan 12, 2007 14:43:00 GMT -8
P.S. It's okay to disagree with the opinions expressed so far. This IS a discussion board after all. hehe. Maybe through debate we can help form a solution to the percieved problems?
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Post by euforia on Jan 12, 2007 19:17:02 GMT -8
If there is a solution found who is to say that any one other than us will embrace it?
And yeah, we aren't DN1. If you have something positive to say we won't be all like,
"STFU N00B! GTFO!!!!!"
Or if I do I don't mean anything by it and it's more on the joke / irony scale than anything.
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Post by 2fist on Jan 13, 2007 12:07:47 GMT -8
It is so very lame to have to run around Megacity "/who"ing to find a live event. I recently saw a post on DN1 where a player was asking why they never saw a live event. The response he/she got was that they probably weren't invited to participate! I started to post a reply saying that live events aren't content that should require invitation. But I decided not to start the inevitable flame war. I also wanted to preserve my uber leet low post count.
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Post by euforia on Jan 13, 2007 12:33:10 GMT -8
he he he.
always trying to fly under the man's radar, eh 2fist?
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Post by Admin on Jan 13, 2007 19:21:16 GMT -8
He has uber forum ninja skills. ;D
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Post by Pylat on Jan 14, 2007 8:37:12 GMT -8
I have played this game for 1 year, and in all of my time here I have been to 1 LE. And the only reason I made it was because the leader of the mech faction The Watchmen, Shinryu, was tipped off by Vogt. I happen to have a n00b mech alt which I took on down. That is the only LE interaction I have ever gotten. I once bumped into Matarax purely by accident and spied on a meeting of his, those were good times. But yes I agree completely, LESIG lick balls and need an overhaul/fix, and forums MOD's need to grow some balls and spank people more often. Endomorph for example, how many times has he posted outright flames at people? He made an entirely new thread just to flame JSong, then he starts flames on millions of people in various threads, then he posts picks of ChloeAnn without her permission, personally if he did those things on any other forums he probly would have Lawsuit on his hands. And what about the short long lived IpsePwnt account and lpsePwnt account made soley to flame Epsi (Who is actually a perfectly nice guy OOC)? Man, I need to track a few of these people down and beat the shit outta them Jay and Silent Bob style, you can use your mad Tae Kwon Do skillz Skyscream and join me with my karate
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Post by Admin on Jan 14, 2007 12:26:47 GMT -8
Yeah. Me and Espi go waaaaay back. Before he joined Legends. hehe. Which reminds me I forgot to reply to his e-christmas card. oops. Have to give him the addy to the new site too. Endo is a jerk. He needs to be banned. The person I mentioned admitting he should be banned was .. *drumroll* Endo. He reallllly doesn't like getting beat one on one by an RPer either. But hey.. I used to chill with Semi and Bofa and Espi.. I know how to PvP. Just don't do it often. There is a certain group of players that are coddled while others who are respected in the community get bans for nothing. literally. Like with Brewko going insane and mass banning all the wrong people... Le sigh. Seriously... I should have been warned a few times in the past. I haven't. I once let loose on Pascal... for no reason at all (personal issues in the real. bah) ... with what amounted to several nukes. I should have been warned if not no spooned for a week or so. But nothing. /shrug There are numerous haters that troll DN1 looking to trash the game as well. Nothing is done about them.. why not? Like Novus. The little weasle who posted all that crap on MMORPG.com... So what if he comes back? He's still a little weasel with an attitude thats going to get smacked down when he enters the real world and moves out of his moms basement. Or so I'm assuming. Makes a lot of claims .. but .... I've not seen any evidence to support them. At least when I claim something, for example being a published author like he did, I can back it up. I've been published. I even stuck a couple that I own the rights to on these forums. Which reminds me I need to fix the typos. I suck. lol. Can't even copy and paste the right versions. hahahah. What was I talking about? I started rambling and forgot. Let me read back a bit. heh. Oh yeah... You have no idea how close I've been to crawling down the internet, finding where they live, buying a plane ticket, and doing just that Pylat.
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