Took me something like an hour and a half too, Rycus.. And they only had the progress bar for what's currently downloading, not the overall progress.
Problem about expansions or updates is that they can't really do it without having a ton more dialog recorded for every character... so they can't bring new stuff as often as other MMOs, it'll take several months only for gameplay/story updates.
And Val, I hope I don't have to redownload that again... My ISP is going to kill me already with everything I download, I can't afford another 30gb xD
All right, time for a little review of what I've seen so far.
Gameplay TOR's gameplay is probably the weakest part of the experience. Not because it is necessarily bad, but because it doesn't bring much new to the table. Almost everything here has been seen before. Although the use of instances is a welcomed addition, it's still not enough to control the crowds of players that will interfere in your questing. With missions like "Deactivate 6 bombs" in a public area, you'll find dozens of other players doing the same thing as you, making it very hard to find active bombs.
The game works in a way that you have public areas - where anyone can go at anytime, which is the majority of the maps - and group/story areas. These areas are only accessible when your quests allow it, and it drops you into an instance on your own (or with your group) so that the story can progress without other players interfering. Which is good, and it opens a lot of possibilities.
The combat itself is pretty MMO basic. Sometimes you'll feel awesome tearing through enemy armies with your friends, especially in flashpoints, but most of the time it feels like a chore. Especially since enemies take very little time to respawn, making it so sometimes you have to defeat the same enemies you just defeated a minute ago.
Visuals The game looks good. Not modern realistic good, but cartoony star warsy good. At first the graphics are distracting, but you quickly get used to it and love it. The character design are good, the environment looks good, and some planets look really impressive, such as Coruscant, which is immense and will give you that feeling of vertigo when travelling in a speeder.
Although some armors are just textures painted over shirt, or some animations being clumsy and awkward, most of the game looks very sweet and attractive.
Story This is the main point of the game; the story. The story in TOR is really engaging so far, and is why I keep playing. They did a good thing with putting an emphasis on it, because it really pushes you to keep going forward. The class I played the most is Jedi Knight, and it really makes you feel like you're actually engaged into the universe. Although I heard some of the classes are pants-on retarded (like the counsular, apparently), the Knight and the Trooper both succeed in the story aspect, from what I've seen.
But there is one problem with that. Not counting the starter planet, the classes storylines are about 7% of all the missions/dialogs/quests you will encounter in the game. The rest of the game is a story that every class on one side will go through. What I mean is that aside from 7% or so of the quests, every Republic character will have the same story, and every Empire character will have the same story. Going through the same thing 8 times in order to see each character's storyline already looks like something painful to do. Coruscant is the second planet every Republic character goes to, and I'm already cringing at the idea of running through it again.
The companions are also a very very cool addition. It puts the little Bioware touch in the game, and adds a lot of fun. Your companion can accompany you on your missions to give you a hand, or you can send them to craft, gather intel or resources, etc. So even if they're back on the ship, they don't feel useless. The companions you get fit with what kind of character you play. If you're a tank, you'll get mostly damagers, healers or dps companions. If you're a healer, than you'll get companions that get fight and pull agro, so you're not ganked by enemy NPCs every time you enter a fight. You can also customize your companions, like what they're wearing, or even how they look.
Whether you're playing Republic or Empire, you will have the choice during your story to play either a good guy or a bad guy. There are light side and dark side choices in conversations, and that will shape the way people and companions react to you. So you can be a kind hearted bounty hunter, or a cold hearted trooper. Not sure if you can actually fall to the darkside while being a Jedi, but with the way that system works, I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible.
The music is what you would expect from Star Wars. Nothing really to say about it, except that it's good, and it does the job of immersing you just fine.
The voice acting on the other hand is usually top-notch. Although some minor characters I met had clumsy voice acting, most of the characters are professionally done. Renowned voice actors such as David Hayter and Jennifer Hale are also in the game, so it makes it almost impossible to be bad.
TOR looks promising in some aspects, but as I said, these aspects may affect the replay value in the long run. This game would've been better if it was made as a single-player game. As an MMO? We'll see. I give points to Bioware for the storylines, they are very fun to play through. But are they going to be fun the second, third and forth times?
Good hearted bounty hunter? I wonder where you got that from heeheehee. I do agree that it feels more like a single player game and on my bh the only time I have trouble with anything are when I'm doing heroics (quest areas recommended for 2 or more players) with just mako (my companion) by my side.
Probably the highlight of the game so far is a conversation at the end of a bh story line quest. Have a bounty on a republic noble and I track him down and he's with an imperial noble posing as her brother when in fact the are lovers. I bring up that they don't look like each other, and he comes back with a messed up response that shows they aren't brother and sister. Then Mako comes back with well when you are dating your brother things are bound to go wrong eventually. Just that made playing this game worth it.
Dee I loved that because now i cant complain at you any more for saying you've never played it
Ok well If we think to ourselves did we really expect it to be the best ever? I would say no. Did I expect it to have the 100% separate storyline for every player, I really want to say that that is what I wanted, but alas even 4 years isn't enough time to do it on that scale, so maybe as the DLC comes out in future with expansions etc well see more of that?
From what you've said there isn't too much that surprises me. You cant get it right all of the time and I think what Bioware have done from your review is make the best Bioware game they can while still keeping it an MMO. Those are two separate things that have never came together but this game isn't a "Once its released well do one DLC pack and call it a day" game, this is a game that they seem to take A LOT of feedback from and they seem to have a solid plan in place post release in order to try and make it the game everyone wants it to be including themselves.
Lets not forget there's only so much you can do for the release, after that the worlds your oyster IF you players give you the chance. Bioware will succeed for me for 2 reasons.
1. There Bioware. They love games and money but they love games more. They don't make the same mistake certain other companies make like NGE for example. They give the players what they want. Story, Fun, Immersion.
2. This is Star Wars. And that universe is possibly bigger than Tolkien's universe. There is no limit to who can add to that universe. And for that reason it WILL succeed, and everyone here knows that's true lol
So I know I'm going to enjoy this game immensely! I know that when its released Ill be disappointed but very happy all at the same time and safe in the knowledge that there is so much more to come!
Let me know your thoughts on my opinion (Also you cannot switch sides Dee. Ie Jedi to Sith. Very very disappointed with this and i hope its something they will look at in future as its a CORE mechanic to the Force Orders!)
Plus David Hayter? Seriously! I think I have just... Yeah need to clean myself up. Talk later y'all!
Sephiroth X: I'm shocked this forum is still up and running. I got super nostalgic for MxO and somehow found my way back. I miss you guys.
Aug 29, 2019 13:37:09 GMT -8
Karaa: I might need to make copies of some of the posts on here so we don't loose them if this site ever disappears lol. Hope everyone is doing well! Anyone reading any good books or playing any good games? Hello, Seph! Hope you are doing well!
Dec 13, 2019 14:52:47 GMT -8
Rycus: Merry Christmas everyone. I haven't read any books and lately only game I've played is Ark. Pretty sad when I'm not even up to playing Magic which I've played for 25 years. And this place isn't ever going anywhere.
Dec 25, 2019 12:10:59 GMT -8
Ceege: I'm still making my way through Red Dead and going to do Jedi game next.
Jan 24, 2020 7:47:01 GMT -8
Karaa: Good to know! Its nice to come back to the forums and see that you guys are still around <3
Jan 26, 2020 21:16:31 GMT -8
Karaa: Hope everyone had a nice holiday! Hows things going, Ry? Just not really into games lately?
Jan 26, 2020 21:17:11 GMT -8
Karaa: Red dead is on my list, Ceege! Are you enjoying it?
Jan 26, 2020 21:17:39 GMT -8
Rycus: Yeah not really into games atm have other things that have happened that are more on my mind as of late. Although on the plus side I"m still alive and I quit smoking (after having smoked for 30+ years).
Jan 30, 2020 16:38:11 GMT -8
Rycus: Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy.
Mar 26, 2020 14:27:06 GMT -8
telemancer: wow I havent been here in a year more or less. GREAT to see y´all are doing well!
Jul 8, 2020 8:03:37 GMT -8
telemancer: all is well here in el salvador. though I am forcibly separated from my two daughters who are living and working up in the USA.
Jul 8, 2020 8:05:28 GMT -8
Sephiroth X: Hope everyone is doing well. Been trying to keep myself isolated as much as possible.
Jul 13, 2020 13:41:20 GMT -8
telemancer: hope everyone is good. miss y´all!
Jan 15, 2021 13:51:23 GMT -8